Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/23/1998 01:08 PM House TRA

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HB 358 - MOTOR VEHICLE IMPOUNDMENT AND FORFEITURE                              
                                                                               
Number 0375                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS brought up the next order of business, HB 358,               
"An Act relating to impoundment or forfeiture of a motor vehicle,              
aircraft, or watercraft; and providing for an effective date,"                 
sponsored by Representative Kelly.  Chair Williams indicated they              
had adopted Version K at the last committee meeting.                           
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE PETE KELLY came forward to explain the legislation.             
                                                                               
Number 0498                                                                    
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS called for a brief at ease at 1:21 p.m.  He                  
called the meeting back to order at 1:25 p.m.                                  
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KELLY stated the Department of Law had some concerns            
about due process.  Representative Kelly referred to the proposed              
amendment.  Section 1, page 1, line 12, after court, insert "orders            
the vehicle released or".  It orders the vehicle released to a                 
person under (g) of this section, to the person who owned the                  
vehicle but not driving at the time of the arrest.  Page 2, lines              
3 through 6, added a new part (g) which provides guidance for the              
court to release the impounded vehicle to the owner.  He indicated             
those were the only changes between the two versions.                          
                                                                               
Number 0558                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BILL HUDSON reference page 2, line 11, of Version P.            
He asked if that was a felony offense or an offense.                           
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KELLY said he did not believe that changed from the             
last version.                                                                  
                                                                               
Number 0599                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to adopt CSHB 358, Version P,              
dated 2/21/98.                                                                 
                                                                               
CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked whether there was an objection.  There                 
being none, CSHB 358, Version P was adopted.                                   
                                                                               
Number 0626                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ELTON indicated Captain Bachman, Commander of                   
Operations, Division of Alaska State Troopers, Department of Public            
Safety, indicated he would feel more comfortable if "shall" were               
changed to "may" on page 1, lines 9 and 10.                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KELLY noted the Department of Public Safety does                
want "shall".                                                                  
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MASEK stated she had the same concern that                      
Representative Elton had.                                                      
                                                                               
Number 0684                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked if the Administration is satisfied with            
Version P.                                                                     
                                                                               
DEL SMITH, Deputy Commissioner, Department of Public Safety,                   
testified before the committee.  He said what he was concerned                 
about the earlier version, and to make sure an officer does not                
have the discretion to say, "I don't like you, therefore your ten              
days, or five days, or something."  He indicated he did not want               
the officer to have to make that decision.  He explained it is now             
at two and five.  His said, "My concern about putting 'may' in that            
particular section was you still may two days, may five days.  If              
it's your brother-in-law, you do eight hours...."  He did not want             
the officers having the discretion to decide on a sliding scale of             
punishment.                                                                    
                                                                               
Number 0741                                                                    
                                                                               
MR. SMITH said, "I do not want to see storage [of vehicles] any                
longer than that because I think it becomes a security problem,                
vandalism and what not, if you store them longer than two or                   
potentially five days in the second offense."  Anything longer than            
that would be extremely problematic for the Alaska State Troopers              
in parts of the state.  He indicated it is not such a problem in               
populated areas, but where there aren't a facility, or wreckers, it            
does become problematic.                                                       
                                                                               
Number 0814                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ELTON indicated he was surprised with Section 1                 
because there is no fiscal note from the Department of Public                  
Safety or the Department of Law.                                               
                                                                               
MR. SMITH said the impoundment of a vehicle is generally borne by              
the subject, not by the law enforcement agency.  If there are                  
impounding fees, it is generally paid by the defendant, this is not            
an evidentiary impound as he understands it.  There is no cost to              
the Alaska State Troopers or law enforcement as far as he could                
see.                                                                           
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE ELTON asked what happens if you impound a vehicle in            
a region or area which there is no impound facility, do you have to            
have a secure facility.                                                        
                                                                               
MR. SMITH said in the bill impoundment would include disabling.                
For instance in Aniak, the vehicle could be disabled - potentially             
a boot, which we do not have very many of those, but a boot could              
be put on so it cannot be moved.  He said he did not believe they              
would be required to lease or build an impound facility.                       
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to move CSHB 358, Version P,               
out of committee with individual recommendations and attached zero             
fiscal note.                                                                   
                                                                               
Number 0857                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MASEK objected.  She said the bill covers motor                 
craft and aircraft, she asked about watercraft.                                
                                                                               
Number 0913                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON said anything on the water is a purview of               
the Coast Guard.  He did not believe there was state licensing.  He            
noted he would temporarily remove his motion to advance the bill               
for further discussion.                                                        
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE KELLY said motor vehicle covers that in the statute.            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE MASEK removed her objection.                                    
                                                                               
Number 0953                                                                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to move CSHB 358, Version P,               
dated 2/21/98, out with individual recommendations and attached                
fiscal note.  There being no objection, CSHB 358(TRA) moved from               
the House Transportation Standing Committee.                                   
                                                                               

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